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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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episode number 79 for the 23rd of april

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2010 richardson is here with you once

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again what a week I've had listeners

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what a fantastically restful wonderful

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week on Monday I drove from Sydney to

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just outside of albury about six and a

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half hours drive to visit Jim wilshire

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now Jim is the guy who does this welcome

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to the skeptic zone the podcast from

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Australia for science and reason a very

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old friend of mine and it was just

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wonderful to spend a few days with him

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celebrate his birthday he lives on a

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huge farm rolling countryside cows

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everywhere dogs little farmhouse what a

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magical time thanks Jim thanks very much

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Jim's probably going to be popping up to

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Sydney before too long if he does we'll

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certainly grab him for a think tank now

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I must say before we get on to the show

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that the big news this week in Australia

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in Australian sport was the fact that

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the rugby league club in Melbourne the

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Melbourne Storm have been stripped of

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the last virtually five years of their

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accomplishments they won two grand

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finals that's been stripped from them

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the all the points they've accrued this

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year have been stripped and they can't

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accrue any more points due to a scandal

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involving money and salary caps and

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players and this sort of thing it's huge

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news it really is and a lot of people

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including my friend Jim were really

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shaken up by this because they were fans

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of this the club the storm imagine

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listeners if your favorite sporting club

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your football club your baseball club

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your basketball club cricket club

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whatever it might be was suddenly

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stripped of all their accomplishments

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over the last five years and looked like

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they were going to simply fade into

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nothing you'd be devastated now I only

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say this because earlier this year some

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of our supposedly most famous and best

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clairvoyance and psychics were

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predicting who would win this football

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competition this year

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in October I think that he missed the

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boat once again they should have told

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everybody that there was a huge scandal

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coming up which would rock the game to

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it's very core another miss for the

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psychics but on to this week's show and

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I must thank dr. Reggie really for

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putting this week's show altogether or

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recording it as I was away enjoying

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myself dr. ray cheap opt into the ABC

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here in Sydney the broadcasting people

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and she interviewed one of my favorites

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crabs now a lot of Australian listeners

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will certainly remember Maynard he was a

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huge influence on a lot of people well

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in the late 80s and the 90s he's still

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going strong so I'm really looking

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forward to this one myself mean aren't F

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sharp crabs really fantastic to hear

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what he's been up to and following that

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we have the think tank air was dr. rachy

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and Ron and Joe Dave the happy singer

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and a drunken madman so that's this

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week's show I hope you enjoyed sit back

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grab that nice cup of ginger tea and

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may not started his career as a

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volunteer and community radio in

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and during a time when no other

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presenters were encouraged to have

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talked back collars Maynard was the

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first one to do so he established the

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castanet club with Mikey Robins who has

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since gone on to a very successful

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career in Australian television but in

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Australia Maynard is probably best known

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he did from 1987 until the early 90s any

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Australia next generation folks that are

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many other tricks that he used to get up

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to I'm really pleased to be presenting

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this interview to you today as I

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remember may not really well from those

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days Maynard F sharp crabs can I still

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call you f sharp close well look that's

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an interesting story you actually just

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call me Maynard because when i was doing

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council after I've finished up on triple

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j breakfast the main app if shop Krebs

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was just too difficult for commercial

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radio audience to get their ear around

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there like what huh so we just call it

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may not which is good because most

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people on commercial radio normally may

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not oh when I may not be was some really

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blow Kiku so Maynard's just fine yeah

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and that's that's the way we like to be

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known all right on one word like Madonna

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and cheese and cheese or Kylie al-qaeda

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exactly i'm lucky that way well welcome

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Kylie cheese or may not manado to the

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skeptic saying look it's great to be

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here with you in a very small room in

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ABC old enough we're in the TARDIS

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that's my body which is a very small

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little recording studio in ABC ultimo

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yeah yeah and we deliberately called

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them the bees at the ABC we cross them

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all their small little rooms that you

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know when you're talking to someone you

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don't know what size it is there's not

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room to swing a cat or an ABC presenter

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in here yeah that's true so may not I

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came to talk to you today because i

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found an interview you did a couple of

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weeks ago with our friend brian dunning

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from scab thaicom me look Brian downing

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was a guy I had I had the joy of

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chatting during half a half an hour and

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look you know I'm a very small brain and

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in fact I'm a bit confused as to why I'm

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even on this program that step exam

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because I'm not very bright um if you

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held me up as a skeptic I wouldn't be a

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good one i'm bid I'm I'm your classic

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strongman skeptic you know sometimes I

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don't look at my night he might be a

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skeptic in your argument before

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completed I'm not exactly your first

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speaker in a debate let's put it that

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way okay yeah but now you you do have

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some fun with Brian in his hot tub of

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Rob this is indeed brian dunning is

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fantastic I mean like I mean he doesn't

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like to have this pointed out but he

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does have a hot tub of truth there he is

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often skyclad of a weekend with various

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people and quite right and and what

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until he he might have a problem with

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that but i think if as long as you get

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the maths right if you're sitting on the

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toilet and saying the right thing it

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doesn't matter so I don't see why

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shouldn't be nude in a spa and yeah Tim

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bronze pretty smart I mean I really

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listen every week to his stuff it took

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me a while to catch up I was a light bar

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was bit tardy to the party hey and I

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myth or the story and then he goes apart

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saying why it's not true and I think

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that that's a great way to do things I

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mean and it's short and concise yeah and

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it's also not sort of judgmental is it

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he really just lays the facts out and

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then you can decide for yourself because

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skeptics sometimes get accused of being

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a little bit like atheists do you know

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is I mean skeptics and atheists often

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make the the big mistake that the

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churches have been making it has been

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annoying as all four years is that they

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about them um and the sense of

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righteousness does tend to annoy people

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side and they can prove everything but

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but that yes that that does tend to

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annoy people a bit when they get a bit

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to evangelical and I can understand I

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mean Brian himself I'm said in my

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interview that Richard Dawkins is an

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atheist activist and he wasn't convinced

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that he has actually convinced too many

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people who weren't atheists already and

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i think that's that's an interesting

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Ironmen well speaking of evidence

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Maynard I have evidence that that hot

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tub of truth exists you know because

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Richard Saunders who's also on the

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skeptic zone he has actually done a hot

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tub or think tank from Brian's hot tub

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called the drunk tank which I thought

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so there was a think tank from the drunk

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hot tub of truth that's right yes yeah

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and there was glass being broken someone

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smashed a champagne just like in that

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scene from showgirls and where they go

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champagne glasses in the pool I think

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everybody else was looking at you know

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at the nude bodies but I was going it's

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incredibly unsafe you shouldn't be

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dropping glove what are some kiddie went

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in there the next day well we'll have to

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get on to Brian about that yeah and that

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is known as the pool scene from

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showgirls look it up on youtube I'm not

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like the worst movie ever oh yeah and

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that's the worst thing it is that yeah

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making himself Kyle MacLachlan and it's

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a pretty funny thing here and the sex

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scene it looks a bit like a washing it

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turns a sort of the pool adore washing

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tub it's pretty funny right so that's it

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I think that's why you don't want me

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being a spokesman for any skeptic you

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don't which I'm not because you know I

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get up and I get sidetracked like stuff

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like that okay well can we get back to

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skepticism for a moment I didn't

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the only the first thing i have heard of

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you being interested in the movement at

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all was with the brian dunning interview

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so tell me are you a skeptic I I think

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it's safe to say I'm pretty skeptical um

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I have been long to the Newcastle

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skeptics meeting a number of time oh you

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have and I'm a fan of the guys there um

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I don't know but also look yes I am but

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also look just to give you an idea on my

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ipod here I've got the skeptics guide to

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the universe the Atheist Experience

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which is the podcast from the austin

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texas atheist that's pretty come I've

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got you guys to skipped exam at the same

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simply describes its it but they

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the mouth metaphorically that is been no

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agenda show with adam curry and john c

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machine all the evidence points that not

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being the case but I like enjoying

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be an earthquake machine and what

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fun to imagine what if so yes I'm

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skeptic but you know I enjoy the what-if

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possibilities and I had attained them I

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mean is a you have you got a pet

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conspiracy theory I have I was going to

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ask you about that I do have one my

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favorite is the Illuminati which is run

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by the Rockefellers and the Rothschild

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and this involves the lizard people have

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you heard about that we know the royal

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family is supposed to be a reptilian

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bunch of people and they're just hiding

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as humans until they come out and take

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over the world part of the New World

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Order well in fact before you go on and

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Brian did a did Georgia Guidestones did

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you hear his good yeah that's a little

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bit to do with that the Rockefellers in

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the Rothschilds yeah well he's your

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favorite the only entry herbs that

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particular is I have met a Rothschild

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actually lead singer of Caligula is a

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Rothschild or related to the Rothschilds

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and I remember drinking with him one

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night and declaring him a pretty

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piss-poor number of the beast good

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question um he just didn't strike me as

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someone who would be a member of the

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people of a take over the world but

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maybe he's lower down the ranking that's

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ash lead some of Caligula look up their

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version of tears of a clown on youtube

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so you don't have a favorite conspiracy

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well see it look and I'm also a big fan

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in Sydney of going long to Jamie

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Leonardo's movements on archives where

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they have a conspiracy it'll get

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together every Monday night and and

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again conspiracies bit wrong because i

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think it whenever you say that that

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normally means crackpot and in a court

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of law or conspiracy it doesn't always

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mean a crackpot theory that is true

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we're in the skeptics world when you

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hear conspiracy theory you automatically

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think of people with propeller hats on

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that sort of thing in foil hats or

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tinfoil hats as well which um there's a

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great how-to on the web about how to

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make one as well you should try it yes

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as a how-to page on how to make your own

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tin foil hat beanie right yeah perfect

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for the upcoming Australian winter ah

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and look I like going on to those things

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but my favorite theory of that would be

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look I've always been fascinated by

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unidentified flying objects and I've

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also been fascinated by all the noise

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and signal surrounding the Kennedy

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assassination as a

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people have so these are pre major ones

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they're not particularly exciting um but

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there's also the console's have a great

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stuff sock conspiracy that we can all be

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feed into which is you know I mean there

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is a logical explanation to wear your

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socks go and I'm sure of minis is it

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been a few years anyone got an ignoble

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award for discovering where their socks

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don't lie because there's an ignoble

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award for someone who can find out where

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they disappeared too because logically

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they should be on the floor in your

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house or somewhere in the washing

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machine but do you ever find them no I

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wonder if dr. Carl can get on to this

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perhaps I'm surprised he hasn't got on

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to it already yeah I suspect he probably

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has or Brian Dunning good entire show on

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this has probably been below Brian i

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gotta say right Danny from skiff toy car

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that's right the man with the hot tub I

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mean perhaps he loses into the pit on

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pair of swimmers in the hot tub of truth

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I bet he does in fact he wanted to say

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he wanted me to say to you crikey crikey

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yeah indeed I don't know why I'll

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probably just cuz we're Australians and

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I might have said that Dean crikey yeah

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yeah be gonna be careful saying that no

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you were telling me on the way up here

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about a podcast which is called a look

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at his butt don't you tell me about that

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now look look it is again one of my

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favorite ones uh I know everyone

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listening is a William Shatner fan

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because let who isn't who hasn't had at

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least one time in their life i shat in a

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moment um I I can't think what mine was

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maybe I'm yet to have it but basically

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you've got two girls who love the work

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of William Shatner and have a sense of

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irony about the whole thing and when

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they were young leads to watch Star Trek

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and go wow look at his body and now they

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have a their own podcast which looks at

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the work of William Shatner they also do

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reviews of sex toys so if you know any

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other podcast out there that combines

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science fiction and sex toy reviews let

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me know because theirs is the one to

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look at and they go and do wild stuff

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all the time and they're always talking

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about William and the apparently in some

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scenes I haven't been looking as closely

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of the ridge inul Star Trek um I think

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they're called an EV ease erroneous

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visual erections or something like that

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caused by the fact that when they sit

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down with the pants the pants buff up in

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the front oh I haven't noticed this but

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that happens a lot okay just as in Star

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Trek

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generation whenever anyone gets up or

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gets into a sick you saw them you see

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them pulling their costume down because

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they were badly designed they weren't

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designed to stand up and sit down in so

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as long as like that so look at his butt

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is a show to investigate for that kind

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of thing well I'm going to dragoncon

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this year may not in atlanta georgia

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which is one of the biggest science

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fiction convention i think the but girls

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are then will also be there really i

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have to catch up with them because last

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year william shatner was there but i

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couldn't see his butt and that was

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because his people were surrounding him

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everywhere he went so he had this sort

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of circle of people everywhere and

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they'd shuffle across the river so many

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people the Shatner have he had enough

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people so you couldn't take a photo of

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him without paying 75 US dollars well

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well he he does like shilling for the

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money yeah hey shield he knows how to

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make money just look at him yeah well so

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tell me a little bit about what you're

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up to because you are my favorite DJ in

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the 90s I used to wake up every morning

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at six o'clock in the morning to hear

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you say wakey wakey hands off snakey and

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and just a simple call and wake up you

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dumb body which you know it's very

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Australian and also if some if someone

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says that to you in the morning you like

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to get really annoyed or you'll get out

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of it yeah there was one about the bus

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as well I remember used to go on about

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hurry up the buses coming to the bus

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stop now do you know that I just do a

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simple thing which is always good for

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radio now and so like for example i can

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so now it's a it's a 13 pass too if you

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had to catch the bus at ten past two

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you've missed it just simple stuff like

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that and you know armatures helpful it

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is helpful to people in the morning

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because they can give up and go back to

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bed or they can just get depressed it

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could be late for work and I like having

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on also what I used to do and yeah

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sometimes I do it I / filter but just

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quietly have a phone ringing noise

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during songs just have a sound effect of

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a normal phone ringing just far off once

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or twice during a song or a cat meowing

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or something like that in the background

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of things that are going on normally and

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make no reference to it and you'd have

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people wandering around the house

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looking for their cat or answering a

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phone that doesn't ring fantastic that's

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great yeah yeah so what are you doing

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with yourself now you're still doing

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radio are you a local thing I'm dead and

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you know well and yeah half the time I

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appre that you're not that's true i will

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have the time i'm in new castle which is

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very similar basically i'm online goose

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for ABC newcastle

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online games online goose because maybe

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see has all these great title for what

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you do like cross media reporter i know

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that means i mean i mean you've got a

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doctor what does the cross media report

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him is it someone who's angry all the

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time cross yeah possibly yes so handsome

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so look I decided that I needed a title

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that if you read something by me you

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could not possibly be disappointed so

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online goose go well that's not

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well-written mother in bone line goose

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are you let's see yeah um yes you get

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out clause my I my pad under promise and

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under-deliver dr. Rachel that's the key

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life hmm and basically I do radio stuff

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for them do but a video for the web did

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a lot of fun last year I did a series of

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videos called 30-second special with Jay

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cats about some lesser-known pop moments

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that I thought needed to be held up into

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light like the work of Frank Bennett

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like the work of Frank Sinatra jr. a few

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little clips like that so search head

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out on youtube if you get a bigger

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chance hello and welcome to 30 seconds

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special the show where we get a little

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bit of pop culture now good that's been

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swept on her carpet pick it up prior

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microscope look at it again and I'll

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tell you what today we've got a Pepsi

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sexiest dancer stroke singer stroke

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actress who's ever had a Bolivian the

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aerospace engineer as a father Rock Hill

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Welsh I mean tell me later was there a

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Bolivian space program yes they got as

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high as 15 feet someone got a bit of a

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Bolivian nosebleed had to come back down

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oh really and then was just to look down

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on that beautiful daughter of his reg

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he'll look like hella had an

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extraordinary career she's probably most

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well-known fulfill mine and she started

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over 30 films one of the greatest as far

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as I'm concerned she doesn't speak a

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word of English 1 million bc she's in a

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prehistoric bikini one of the most

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controversial was Myra Breckinridge in

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which she plays a transsexual that

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worried a lot of people but what we're

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looking at today comes from a great

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special a night in 70 TV special now

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where did you find this in the movies

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all these things were around it was just

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under one rock to the side there and

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look I actually what

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I actually saw this years and years ago

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I remembered and that's what started the

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hunt because I thought oh my god this

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has been inspired by Erich von Daniken's

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Chariots of the Gods and that's the

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beauty of this piece you actually cut

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out of the song california dreamin and

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the next thing you in like Tiahuanaco

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she's in this most incredibly revealing

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spacesuit she's got a couple of spaceman

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with her and they do a great

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choreographed dance sequence so she

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might have made a phone call to a dad to

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get the outfit for this I'd say so

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Raquel Welch and what's happening with

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mad club is that still going well the

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mad club now for those people who don't

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know that was basically I'd go along to

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a club I rabanne a club for a number of

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years about eight years here in Sydney

536
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:31,610
called the mag club in Kings Cross and

537
00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:34,850
we would DJ there while a food fight

538
00:20:41,529 --> 00:20:37,070
went on we basically have a certified

539
00:20:43,930 --> 00:20:41,539
set fire to things use 240 volts and a

540
00:20:45,580 --> 00:20:43,940
water in a dangerous way in fact I was

541
00:20:47,260 --> 00:20:45,590
looking at some videos of that leading

542
00:20:49,899 --> 00:20:47,270
up to me doing a man club recently and

543
00:20:52,810 --> 00:20:49,909
basically everything we used to do in

544
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:52,820
the early 90s is now illegal to do in a

545
00:20:57,870 --> 00:20:55,370
club you apparently it's illegal to

546
00:21:00,639 --> 00:20:57,880
swing a 240-volt light around your head

547
00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:00,649
on a rope while standing in full of

548
00:21:05,769 --> 00:21:03,529
water now I think why in a public place

549
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:05,779
apparently that's illegal apparently

550
00:21:10,029 --> 00:21:07,850
putting a lighter fluid on the floor of

551
00:21:12,490 --> 00:21:10,039
a club in a 20-foot line then setting

552
00:21:14,769 --> 00:21:12,500
fire to it is illegal and also running

553
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,779
into two-stroke lawn mower in a club

554
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:16,880
with with no blades we had no blades on

555
00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:19,010
the lawn mower but we did have a fair

556
00:21:21,970 --> 00:21:20,840
bit of exhaust fumes in a club you know

557
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:21,980
you just don't have to do those things

558
00:21:26,139 --> 00:21:24,890
neha d people what what has happened to

559
00:21:28,690 --> 00:21:26,149
taking your life in your hands when you

560
00:21:30,970 --> 00:21:28,700
go to the club so we couldn't do any

561
00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:30,980
that but we did a man club recently at

562
00:21:34,930 --> 00:21:33,049
consolas and we had a lot of fun there

563
00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:34,940
and we've got lots of people but because

564
00:21:38,980 --> 00:21:36,760
it runs got what 10 years on them

565
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:38,990
they're not as big drinkers as I used to

566
00:21:41,490 --> 00:21:40,730
be now I know this just to the drunk

567
00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:41,500
tank

568
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:44,980
there's a saying that book the think

569
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:46,960
tank in the skeptic world that you know

570
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:48,850
is skepticism and alcohol is a bit of

571
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:50,650
air you know symbiosis is at the moment

572
00:21:55,140 --> 00:21:52,690
I think there is some symbiosis I'm

573
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:55,150
little bit there um but in the mare club

574
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:56,170
because the people have a bit older a

575
00:21:59,310 --> 00:21:57,970
bit more sensible instead of having ten

576
00:22:01,680 --> 00:21:59,320
drinks in a night like maybe they used

577
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:01,690
to that only have three so Bart rate

578
00:22:05,670 --> 00:22:03,450
wasn't sufficient to do it again ah

579
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:05,680
that's just the point that's okay but

580
00:22:08,850 --> 00:22:07,120
the great thing is I get to keep all the

581
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:08,860
inflatables all the props and I've got a

582
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:10,930
six-foot palm tree in my lounge room now

583
00:22:14,370 --> 00:22:12,880
that it's just fantastic it's great it's

584
00:22:15,660 --> 00:22:14,380
just sitting there it looks good so I

585
00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:15,670
get the cable of prop so that's a good

586
00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:17,380
thing but you did set fire to a photo

587
00:22:21,930 --> 00:22:19,990
didn't you make one not illegal well

588
00:22:23,490 --> 00:22:21,940
that was a bit on the edge well we

589
00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:23,500
actually we met a bit further than that

590
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:25,870
I thought look we need a pinata so why

591
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:28,930
not a posh spice pinata baby victoria

592
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:31,810
beckham pinata full of lollies which is

593
00:22:35,670 --> 00:22:33,520
more than she's been for a long time yes

594
00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:35,680
so we haven't we had a girl cop with

595
00:22:39,420 --> 00:22:37,870
high heels and get stuck into the the

596
00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:39,430
posh spice pinata and it worked quite

597
00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:41,140
well and of course we played some spice

598
00:22:44,910 --> 00:22:42,520
girls after it and then we played some

599
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:44,920
bras and then we played some guru Josh

600
00:22:47,850 --> 00:22:46,510
you know we played all the music is

601
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:47,860
expressed maybe that's why the night

602
00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:49,570
didn't go so well maybe you think it was

603
00:22:53,580 --> 00:22:52,510
the 90s music the eighties eighties

604
00:22:54,990 --> 00:22:53,590
nineties music might have been the

605
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:55,000
problem there but like I mean if you go

606
00:22:58,290 --> 00:22:56,320
out and you don't hear bross tune

607
00:23:00,450 --> 00:22:58,300
listener you have met a good night no I

608
00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:00,460
mean I'm going to spend our ballet on

609
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:02,590
Sunday night well nobody and tears for

610
00:23:06,810 --> 00:23:04,330
fears I was gonna say be the big kicker

611
00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:06,820
for that is I wasn't about Spandau

612
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,980
Ballet bit Tears for Fears and spanned

613
00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:10,240
over together that's a pretty good

614
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:12,310
combination yeah I had I had to go for

615
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:14,530
that I'm what other people do you think

616
00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:16,030
you'll see there I mean what type of

617
00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:17,980
people do you think you'll see ya single

618
00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:20,020
mums you think you'll see divorcee is

619
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,750
you think you'll see single people still

620
00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:24,640
bitter um what do you think you'll see I

621
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:26,470
think I'll say some bitter single people

622
00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:28,960
and I'll probably say some maybe some

623
00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:30,910
more fluorescent colors you know how

624
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,350
that like the fashions come back a

625
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:34,720
little bit of the 80s hasn't it maybe

626
00:23:38,370 --> 00:23:36,010
we'll see some young people with fluro

627
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,380
pink socks I took a date along Tudor and

628
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:40,480
um when they were here and and she

629
00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:42,370
dressed up in full new romantic gasps

630
00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:44,200
sort of outfits a thing like what you

631
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:45,700
would have sort of seen any human league

632
00:23:50,460 --> 00:23:48,610
film clip oh yes and and she'll crepe it

633
00:23:52,020 --> 00:23:50,470
but everyone else is just looking normal

634
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:52,030
like people weren't weren't taking the

635
00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:54,010
whole thing seriously and I don't see

636
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:54,940
why you can't a bit of

637
00:23:57,630 --> 00:23:56,050
with your past I mean that's what I've

638
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:57,640
done on my life ya know you've got to

639
00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:59,170
take it seriously I've got to get out my

640
00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:01,840
my my crunchies and my fluoride pink

641
00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:03,820
socks i think for sunday and what will

642
00:24:08,610 --> 00:24:05,920
be your favorite that to severe song

643
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,620
well i'm a bit partial to everybody

644
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:10,720
wants to rule the world no it's not my

645
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:12,610
favorite but the later one the one that

646
00:24:15,630 --> 00:24:13,810
was out when I was actually doing triple

647
00:24:18,510 --> 00:24:15,640
j breakfast was sowing the seeds of love

648
00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:18,520
yes last big it like it's like I'm the

649
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:21,550
walrus yeah it's and also mother's talk

650
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:23,890
I like that one worker and that's like

651
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:24,970
that's an album track you know I'm

652
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:26,530
getting its queuing am being a skeptic

653
00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:28,330
you would be aware of how they got their

654
00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:31,180
name and the tears for fears is based on

655
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:33,760
some sort of therapy reversion therapy

656
00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:35,350
or something like that that's how I got

657
00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:36,940
their name I didn't know it in fact I

658
00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:38,590
even heard a rumor that actually started

659
00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:40,420
a band to get money so they could do the

660
00:24:45,090 --> 00:24:42,700
therapy but I'm not quite really I'm not

661
00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:45,100
sure that's a very weird motivation for

662
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:47,140
starting a band to go into some therapy

663
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:48,010
there and I don't even know if it's

664
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:49,330
quick there it'd be a real therapy I'm

665
00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:52,810
sure we'll have to get what is it the

666
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:54,820
quack cast onto that because also also

667
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,240
one of my favorite podcast yeah he's

668
00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:01,360
fantastic pretty so when are we can i

669
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,220
maybe see you coming to some conventions

670
00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:05,200
and stuff may know that oh look i'm a

671
00:25:09,090 --> 00:25:07,300
big fan of skeptics guy big fan of

672
00:25:10,830 --> 00:25:09,100
skeptics guide to the universe and i

673
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:10,840
believe all those guys are coming here

674
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:13,360
for tam so is it Tim have you it is time

675
00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:15,760
yeah Australia I'm pretty interested in

676
00:25:18,570 --> 00:25:17,020
coming on to that I think that would be

677
00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:18,580
fantastic even if I just went around and

678
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,190
did some did some podcasts and shows on

679
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:23,440
it because some we had this thing here

680
00:25:26,970 --> 00:25:25,510
before no this is the first time this is

681
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:26,980
the first time town will be in Australia

682
00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:30,250
Wow yeah I would like to go to that

683
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:31,750
because I went all the skeptics get

684
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:32,710
together I want to see what they're like

685
00:25:36,810 --> 00:25:34,810
yeah i mean like them skeptics have a

686
00:25:40,050 --> 00:25:36,820
reputation as being a bit intense yes

687
00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:40,060
and and and a bit geeky and and i think

688
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:42,340
you know that that's a bad I mean yeah

689
00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:43,750
sure there's that aspect tube what's

690
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:45,400
what besides what is wrong with that

691
00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:46,810
what's wrong with being intense and

692
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:48,790
geeky more Robert I say look like

693
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:50,110
whenever guest said a while ago about

694
00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:51,850
being a you know an atheist stop being

695
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:54,520
agnostic be an atheist dog you know you

696
00:25:59,340 --> 00:25:56,850
know pick a side and prepare to lose

697
00:26:00,840 --> 00:25:59,350
friends I think that is a great quote I

698
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:00,850
think that's right i mean i've only sort

699
00:26:05,670 --> 00:26:04,000
of really said yes i'm an atheist in the

700
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,680
last year because i've just said I've an

701
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:06,880
agnostic for so long and I thought I

702
00:26:09,030 --> 00:26:07,510
hang on a minute

703
00:26:11,730 --> 00:26:09,040
yeah I better like make a decision on

704
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:11,740
this and and it wasn't Richard Dawkins

705
00:26:17,250 --> 00:26:14,530
to change my mind it wasn't it was Dylan

706
00:26:19,890 --> 00:26:17,260
Moran was it really comic Dylan

707
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:19,900
Magdalene he black books fame you had a

708
00:26:23,130 --> 00:26:21,760
lot in his show he said he used to be a

709
00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:23,140
Catholic or something and he said and he

710
00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:25,390
said is it that stuff being an agnostic

711
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:28,180
you know it like you know you're still

712
00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:29,050
going to go to hell if you're an

713
00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:30,190
agnostic and you get up there and

714
00:26:33,570 --> 00:26:31,750
there's a heaven I thought well you're

715
00:26:35,490 --> 00:26:33,580
right about a pic at annex basically is

716
00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:35,500
his way of saying pick a side so okay

717
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:37,240
I'll go with the atheists they seem like

718
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:40,000
much more fun yeah fair enough to well

719
00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:41,440
thanks very much for joining us later

720
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:42,790
I'll look I'm sure I'll pretty much

721
00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:45,910
advance the cause of skepticism in it

722
00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:48,190
not at all I'll probably taking it back

723
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:49,990
a little bit but look you can check out

724
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:52,210
what I'm doing on Maynard calmed are you

725
00:26:55,410 --> 00:26:53,830
and through there there's links to all

726
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:55,420
the podcasts I mentioned the no agenda

727
00:26:58,290 --> 00:26:56,770
show look at his battle at saw stuff

728
00:27:01,740 --> 00:26:58,300
there's also Maynard TV where I

729
00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:01,750
highlight video each week of Maya of my

730
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:04,200
illustrious and embarrassing past

731
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:06,760
mentorship and end at the moment we've

732
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:08,050
got an interview with Tim Ferguson up

733
00:27:12,570 --> 00:27:09,970
now Tim Ferguson used to be with the dog

734
00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:12,580
Anthony All Stars and he's just written

735
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:14,230
a book called the cheeky monkey on his

736
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:18,280
history on his theory of comedy and that

737
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:19,690
makes a real good interview if you

738
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:21,370
interested in how to write comedy and

739
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,170
also what's Tim Ferguson doing he's not

740
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:24,880
dead either he's still looking at albert

741
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:26,410
well the last I remember him was don't

742
00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:27,760
forget your toothbrush remember that

743
00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:30,280
television show exactly and the weird

744
00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:32,230
thing is as I mentioned with him I often

745
00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:35,080
get mistaken for Tim Ferguson only

746
00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:36,400
because of my height and I've got dark

747
00:27:40,890 --> 00:27:37,900
hair that is that the only that he's a

748
00:27:42,390 --> 00:27:40,900
much hotter guy than I I believe you me

749
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:42,400
he's got the jawline that just won't

750
00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:44,050
quit there I had a dirty big crush on

751
00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:45,940
him in the 90s I have to say well I've

752
00:27:49,950 --> 00:27:48,670
got to say he well he probably was the

753
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,960
best-looking member that I got the

754
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:51,520
all-stars depends on what you want it

755
00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:53,380
was like the good-looking jawline yet

756
00:27:56,430 --> 00:27:55,240
they had the the everyday boy that you

757
00:27:58,170 --> 00:27:56,440
want to take home and you and that was

758
00:28:00,060 --> 00:27:58,180
Richard and light and then there was the

759
00:28:01,170 --> 00:28:00,070
guy that you know the dangerous bad guy

760
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:01,180
that would go home and drink your blood

761
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:03,250
and that was paul mcdermott yeah Jenny

762
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:04,600
had all three of them in the one group

763
00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:06,010
that no one of the girls loved anything

764
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:07,660
else does so I've got interview Tim

765
00:28:11,550 --> 00:28:09,760
Ferguson on the Maynard's malaise

766
00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:11,560
podcast available on iTunes everything

767
00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:12,790
stuff in that but you know it just

768
00:28:16,410 --> 00:28:14,740
depends on what I'm up to and I put

769
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:16,420
different things on them and you can

770
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:17,650
write to been abused me don't worry oh

771
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:19,210
great okay that's true but you know I

772
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:19,570
wish I

773
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:22,690
it's not as you dr. Rachel really well I

774
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:24,250
would really like that we'll sit down

775
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,800
and use some big words like that but I

776
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:28,480
had this one practiced for the interview

777
00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:30,490
kind is it yeah you can please Dave I

778
00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:33,100
feel belief in transubstantiation is

779
00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:36,070
unsubstantiated there how does that

780
00:28:40,770 --> 00:28:39,040
sound I spent all night on Wikipedia

781
00:28:42,450 --> 00:28:40,780
just so i can say that kind of thing I

782
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:42,460
saw you with twittering that you were I

783
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:44,310
need a big word so that

784
00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:47,410
transubstantiation and the belief of not

785
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:49,300
that a non belief in that is what I

786
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:52,570
would push there was one other word that

787
00:28:55,170 --> 00:28:53,650
you shared with me do you want to share

788
00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:55,180
that with Alison well this is actually

789
00:28:59,550 --> 00:28:56,950
from tim ferguson because I said to Tim

790
00:29:01,770 --> 00:28:59,560
what's an unusual word we could use in

791
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:01,780
everyday conversation as a hue bit of

792
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:05,980
humor and he said for nord if n 0 rd and

793
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:11,490
it's a bit hard to explain basically i

794
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:14,830
think of the the coke lobo think of the

795
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:17,590
coke logo the the font of the coke logo

796
00:29:24,090 --> 00:29:19,930
now if you change that to for it to

797
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:24,100
serve say enjoy cocaine or enjoy [\h__\h]

798
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:26,470
and I've seen both of those that would

799
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:28,570
be a Ford because you've typographically

800
00:29:32,550 --> 00:29:31,210
change something in the same font to say

801
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:32,560
something different you've subverted it

802
00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:34,990
now it probably has a meaning deeper

803
00:29:39,810 --> 00:29:37,150
than that but visually that's what it

804
00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:39,820
means so if someone was doing a Ford um

805
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,700
I butter here if you're doing a Ford you

806
00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:44,320
basically tapping away at the computer

807
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:45,750
so it's not interesting but it is work

808
00:29:51,570 --> 00:29:49,450
well for noting away like you would not

809
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:51,580
believe so it still can be used

810
00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:52,930
comically well there's something that

811
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:54,430
our list is probably didn't know so

812
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:55,690
there you're smart enough to tell them

813
00:30:00,510 --> 00:29:57,430
something new okay okay yeah

814
00:30:04,290 --> 00:30:00,520
transubstantiation is unsubstantiated I

815
00:30:05,940 --> 00:30:04,300
love that Thank You Man our dough for

816
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:05,950
joining us on the skeptic second my

817
00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:07,810
pleasure dr. Reggie and I hope to join

818
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:10,270
you sometime in the drunk tank you'd be

819
00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:25,640
attention people in Sydney here's your

820
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chance to see science and art a

821
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wonderful interaction between science

822
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and art the culture at work residency of

823
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:37,100
Queensland Brain Institute

824
00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:40,260
neuroscientist dr. Adam Hamlin as

825
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:42,360
interviewed by dr. 80 on the skeptic

826
00:30:48,410 --> 00:30:45,390
zone show number 60 and embroidery

827
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:48,420
artist melody Lord well they going to

828
00:30:54,590 --> 00:30:50,960
explore the birth and death of new rooms

829
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:54,600
this is a fascinating this is a

830
00:30:59,960 --> 00:30:56,970
fascinating project Adam and melody will

831
00:31:03,500 --> 00:30:59,970
be presenting their Tuesday talk at

832
00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:03,510
culture at work and that's six to eight

833
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:05,820
scott street in piermont here in sydney

834
00:31:14,660 --> 00:31:11,480
on may the 4th at 6pm sounds fascinating

835
00:31:17,650 --> 00:31:14,670
come along and to find out more about it

836
00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:17,660
why don't you drop an email to info @

837
00:31:39,159 --> 00:31:22,230
culture at work Comte you or check out

838
00:31:48,259 --> 00:31:42,529
join us now for drinking skeptically in

839
00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:48,269
the think tank well here we are once

840
00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:49,950
again in our favorite club down the

841
00:31:57,109 --> 00:31:51,899
street welcome to the think tank hello

842
00:32:00,200 --> 00:31:57,119
to everyone and with us tonight we have

843
00:32:02,779 --> 00:32:00,210
around to get high wage Dave the happy

844
00:32:06,169 --> 00:32:02,789
CEO hello everybody Joe better moon I

845
00:32:08,659 --> 00:32:06,179
got three and a drunken madman Oh Jason

846
00:32:12,049 --> 00:32:08,669
Brown now this one peasant missing

847
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:12,059
tonight mm where's riches Claire indeed

848
00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:14,730
which is not here tonight mrs. he's um

849
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:17,100
well actually he's gone down to Aubrey

850
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:19,590
to spend some time with our voiceover

851
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:22,440
man Jim will cheer and it's actually

852
00:32:27,049 --> 00:32:25,529
Jim's birthday today so they're having a

853
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:27,059
barbecue right now and I've not only

854
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:30,480
sausages in topsham yeah so happy

855
00:32:36,739 --> 00:32:32,580
birthday to gym yeah yeah we go Jay

856
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,749
happy birthday and so so who's doing the

857
00:32:48,529 --> 00:32:38,720
voice overs when it comes up party Oh

858
00:32:50,629 --> 00:32:48,539
Jamal didn't later fix it defi um before

859
00:32:53,869 --> 00:32:50,639
we just get stuck into some news items

860
00:32:57,690 --> 00:32:53,879
this week I received on tuesday i

861
00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:05,399
yeah well before you give that away you

862
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:06,940
don't know the story you're right no I

863
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:10,330
don't oh okay um it's it's a glass place

864
00:33:15,539 --> 00:33:13,809
it sitting around on a five sides for

865
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:15,549
the benefit of listeners rachy is

866
00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:18,190
gesturing the size this is no use to you

867
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:21,190
at all and said a 55 okay I don't know

868
00:33:25,649 --> 00:33:23,950
it's like an 8 by 10 inch roughly and

869
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:25,659
it's engraved the glaston grace

870
00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:28,000
universal sandblasting look that you can

871
00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:29,470
can you tell you something about the

872
00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:33,070
wrapping why the the wrapping is fine

873
00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:34,870
what you're inferring is not actually

874
00:33:38,730 --> 00:33:36,820
what was wrong with it what was actually

875
00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:38,740
wrong with it was they misspelled my

876
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:43,750
name before in the awards so most my

877
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:47,590
name is spelt with an AE L not an Al and

878
00:33:50,909 --> 00:33:49,809
somebody who engraved it obviously

879
00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:50,919
wasn't paying very much attention

880
00:33:56,610 --> 00:33:53,500
because interestingly it came packed

881
00:33:59,250 --> 00:33:56,620
very well perhaps because it's glass so

882
00:34:01,710 --> 00:33:59,260
it has three shipping dockets on it all

883
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:01,720
struck correctly it had a little sticker

884
00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:04,630
spelt correctly within the packaging was

885
00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:06,820
the program from the night spoke

886
00:34:12,089 --> 00:34:09,730
correctly everything else if even the

887
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,099
box that the trophy came in had my name

888
00:34:16,859 --> 00:34:14,079
written twice in thick black texture

889
00:34:19,770 --> 00:34:16,869
spelt correctly and then when I opened

890
00:34:21,149 --> 00:34:19,780
it up there was no a and then yeah I

891
00:34:23,369 --> 00:34:21,159
think I think you should join the group

892
00:34:24,450 --> 00:34:23,379
on facebook that i joined people will

893
00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:24,460
always have to spell their names to

894
00:34:37,889 --> 00:34:28,300
other people oh yeah maybe but I mean

895
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:37,899
sometimes lowest aj pey the other guy

896
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:41,530
from Australia who got his and at 27 B /

897
00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:45,760
6 here's came in three pieces so I guess

898
00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:48,429
I should be grateful that it's not in

899
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:49,960
three pieces and also it doesn't say

900
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:51,849
mikkola or Mike Adams so you know

901
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:55,730
exactly there's always an upside yeah

902
00:34:59,740 --> 00:34:58,490
so Debbie you tweeted the shorties and

903
00:35:03,460 --> 00:34:59,750
asked them to give me another one's a

904
00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:03,470
few people did that children yeah well I

905
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,760
don't know if I should follow it up I

906
00:35:09,370 --> 00:35:06,560
feel a bit the book dr. Rachel done up

907
00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:09,380
on it no the did more there's a lot

908
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:10,940
luckier honorific on them we're

909
00:35:15,370 --> 00:35:12,470
definitely giving this face it just says

910
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:15,380
Rachel Dunlop oh maybe it's not even you

911
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:17,570
another Rachel someone else I want the

912
00:35:21,490 --> 00:35:20,330
shirt but without a net yeah maybe it's

913
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:21,500
just a silly to it's a popularity

914
00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:25,910
contest yeah who cares i'm going to say

915
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:28,220
my toys out of the pram but it's really

916
00:35:31,810 --> 00:35:29,690
impressive looking trophy yes i would

917
00:35:33,730 --> 00:35:31,820
have brought it tonight oh I forgot that

918
00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:33,740
neither worked well on an audio podcast

919
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:36,200
well I'm just bragging you know in

920
00:35:39,849 --> 00:35:37,910
bragging rights just hugging it while we

921
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:39,859
do the pocket well don't give a [\h__\h]

922
00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:42,890
well done indeed thank you thank you I

923
00:35:49,950 --> 00:35:45,670
got I got you guys here in particular

924
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:49,960
Jason and happy to talk about the ethics

925
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:51,920
trials that are going on in New South

926
00:35:55,630 --> 00:35:54,170
Wales schools and because you guys know

927
00:35:57,820 --> 00:35:55,640
a fair bit about this and around us as

928
00:35:59,500 --> 00:35:57,830
well Donatello Anastos about that yeah

929
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,510
anybody who wants to know a bit more

930
00:36:03,460 --> 00:36:01,520
background information by the way it's

931
00:36:07,210 --> 00:36:03,470
actually the top story on skeptics like

932
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:07,220
under to you at the moment I might blog

933
00:36:15,370 --> 00:36:10,330
about it on Dave the happy singer calm

934
00:36:18,250 --> 00:36:15,380
probably show up on skeptical well this

935
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:18,260
is a story that goes back a fair way now

936
00:36:23,290 --> 00:36:21,290
but if the situation in Australian

937
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,300
schools is that the churches are allowed

938
00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:24,560
to come in and offer what they call

939
00:36:28,780 --> 00:36:27,320
special religious education which is not

940
00:36:31,450 --> 00:36:28,790
a comparative religion course an

941
00:36:33,790 --> 00:36:31,460
objective look at what religious people

942
00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:33,800
believe but it's taught by ministers and

943
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:37,160
it is a scripture class and quite

944
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,480
rightly the kids are allowed to opt out

945
00:36:42,220 --> 00:36:40,880
of it but those children who opt out of

946
00:36:43,810 --> 00:36:42,230
Scripture aren't allowed to be given

947
00:36:45,130 --> 00:36:43,820
anything useful to do in that time so

948
00:36:48,820 --> 00:36:45,140
they've got to twiddle their thumbs or

949
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:48,830
play computer games they're not even

950
00:36:51,070 --> 00:36:49,850
really allowed to go out in the

951
00:36:52,690 --> 00:36:51,080
playground and play football because

952
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:52,700
they need supervision for that yeah

953
00:36:59,770 --> 00:36:55,970
[\h__\h] go to the library and so no matter

954
00:37:01,150 --> 00:36:59,780
how you feel about having ministers

955
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:01,160
coming into schools in the first place

956
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:03,290
the the situation is it is now isn't

957
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:05,850
great so the sim James ethic center

958
00:37:11,540 --> 00:37:08,970
which is a ethical think tank here in

959
00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:11,550
Australia proposed a secular alternative

960
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:14,040
to scripture classes which is a course

961
00:37:20,830 --> 00:37:16,910
doing an introduction to ethics and the

962
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:20,840
course outline briefly is to give

963
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:23,330
something for the non-religious kids

964
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:26,550
time to learn to think about what's

965
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:28,410
right and wrong because ethics is a part

966
00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:30,030
of the special religious education

967
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:33,390
alongside the brainwashing so the basic

968
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:35,430
course is to talk about a question of

969
00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:38,010
what i want to do to use dialogue to

970
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:42,630
resolve that to develop the basically

971
00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:44,430
the reasoning that we apply to ethical

972
00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:46,740
questions and i think that not every

973
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:48,300
member of The Skeptical movement is also

974
00:37:53,150 --> 00:37:51,060
you know a member of this atheist

975
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:53,160
movement and I'm one with a happy foot

976
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:56,910
in both camps as you know but this is an

977
00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:00,240
issue whether they're offering an

978
00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:02,070
alternative to sitting in a photocopying

979
00:38:06,620 --> 00:38:04,200
room and that alternative is thinking

980
00:38:09,110 --> 00:38:06,630
about things discussing things reasoning

981
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:09,120
trying to figure out what's what's right

982
00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:10,290
and wrong and I think this is one issue

983
00:38:14,180 --> 00:38:12,630
where you know we really do need to

984
00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:14,190
speak with one voice particularly

985
00:38:19,070 --> 00:38:16,380
because the religious is specifically

986
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:19,080
the Christian backlash has been huge

987
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:21,540
really quite oh it's also probably

988
00:38:25,490 --> 00:38:23,730
important to note this is not an atheism

989
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:25,500
class okay this is simply an alternative

990
00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:27,810
it's a secular alternative secular not a

991
00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:30,270
theistic an AC ism class would be pretty

992
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:34,140
short but the thing is it's not and it's

993
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:36,000
not bro it's not competition in the

994
00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:37,410
sense that they're talking against

995
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:39,180
religion this is competition in the

996
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:40,500
sense that it's something alternative

997
00:38:44,810 --> 00:38:42,690
for the kids to do and then churches or

998
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,820
power objective is yearly however I

999
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:47,520
think that the church is quite correctly

1000
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:49,800
realized that if children are given the

1001
00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:52,920
option of going to scripture classes or

1002
00:38:57,770 --> 00:38:56,220
go into a secular class whether talking

1003
00:39:00,640 --> 00:38:57,780
about these things and discussing these

1004
00:39:03,329 --> 00:39:00,650
things I think the children

1005
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:03,339
would would too far under the church

1006
00:39:07,779 --> 00:39:06,410
notice already the church has got really

1007
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:07,789
angry about this will they have

1008
00:39:14,650 --> 00:39:09,890
archbishop peter jensen that this is a V

1009
00:39:16,569 --> 00:39:14,660
of the Anglican tribe he met the

1010
00:39:18,130 --> 00:39:16,579
Education Department to express concern

1011
00:39:20,019 --> 00:39:18,140
that enrollments for religion classes

1012
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:20,029
might drop as a result of ethics classes

1013
00:39:26,319 --> 00:39:24,770
diddums but he said it'd be warned if

1014
00:39:28,029 --> 00:39:26,329
government allows this course to

1015
00:39:29,710 --> 00:39:28,039
continue after the trial it will

1016
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:29,720
jeopardize religious education in public

1017
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:33,440
schools yes without such without such a

1018
00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:35,510
religious component public schools will

1019
00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:43,150
we're talking about public schools we're

1020
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:45,349
not talking about legal go we're talking

1021
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,170
about public schools yeah yeah fire I

1022
00:39:52,450 --> 00:39:50,720
mean we can go back to basic economics

1023
00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:52,460
here you know mr. Jensen improve your

1024
00:39:58,539 --> 00:39:55,069
product yeah don't apply I had to pick

1025
00:39:59,680 --> 00:39:58,549
up your game yeah get them while you get

1026
00:40:01,960 --> 00:39:59,690
them while they're young but the other

1027
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:01,970
thing David that's been happening is

1028
00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:05,569
that the church has been trying to have

1029
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:07,180
input into what's in the classes right

1030
00:40:12,190 --> 00:40:10,190
I've been interfering quite a lot yes we

1031
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:12,200
lobbied for yes the archbishop as well

1032
00:40:17,710 --> 00:40:15,680
as having basically what is a lot of

1033
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:17,720
juvenile blog post every month actually

1034
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:20,089
printed in the newspapers where he tends

1035
00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:22,430
to rant about atheists but he's also

1036
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,470
privately lobbied the prime minister of

1037
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,240
New South Wales he's met with her in

1038
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,400
perennial I don't have a prime minister

1039
00:40:32,319 --> 00:40:30,319
I was it not well premier Kristina

1040
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:32,329
Keneally that's the lady there with you

1041
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:37,010
behaving and I don't know the headline

1042
00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:38,690
here is connealy allows a lot Anglican

1043
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,460
Church to vet content of ethics lessons

1044
00:40:43,779 --> 00:40:42,319
if you actually read into it it just

1045
00:40:46,029 --> 00:40:43,789
said the government would contact the

1046
00:40:49,089 --> 00:40:46,039
anglican diocese regarding their input

1047
00:40:52,289 --> 00:40:49,099
into the trial so I don't that then with

1048
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:52,299
the garden and say no you have none I

1049
00:40:58,299 --> 00:40:55,609
well exactly however what did happen was

1050
00:41:00,819 --> 00:40:58,309
that the

1051
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:00,829
Jensen along with his Catholic

1052
00:41:06,489 --> 00:41:04,910
counterpart did the fire up a little bit

1053
00:41:11,019 --> 00:41:06,499
of an a favor of a letter-writing

1054
00:41:12,759 --> 00:41:11,029
campaign to get get their parishioners

1055
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:12,769
to to write and complain about this

1056
00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:17,140
attic strong and with moderate success

1057
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:20,660
penny Sharpe who's a Labour MP who is

1058
00:41:25,179 --> 00:41:24,170
also very into the Facebook and the

1059
00:41:28,269 --> 00:41:25,189
Twitter and she's very approachable

1060
00:41:32,589 --> 00:41:28,279
online she received driving some 60 odd

1061
00:41:33,999 --> 00:41:32,599
emails once these came out we decided it

1062
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:34,009
was time to send some emails ourselves

1063
00:41:39,370 --> 00:41:36,529
and about four times the number five

1064
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:39,380
times when I'm look probably about 60

1065
00:41:45,549 --> 00:41:41,689
odd friend request on facebook yeah from

1066
00:41:47,499 --> 00:41:45,559
us and dozens or tweets and hundreds of

1067
00:41:50,259 --> 00:41:47,509
email but the interesting thing was she

1068
00:41:51,489 --> 00:41:50,269
did give us some stats on here it

1069
00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:51,499
contacted and the people who are

1070
00:41:55,959 --> 00:41:53,479
opposing the trial almost exclusively

1071
00:41:59,739 --> 00:41:55,969
row by email where's the flood of people

1072
00:42:02,529 --> 00:41:59,749
supporting this 10 week trial / ethics

1073
00:42:04,529 --> 00:42:02,539
classes in schools came from Twitter and

1074
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:04,539
Facebook as well as for an email so

1075
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:06,890
perhaps there's a sign of a generational

1076
00:42:14,859 --> 00:42:11,359
gap there between those who are opposing

1077
00:42:18,609 --> 00:42:14,869
this ethics trial so the ones who

1078
00:42:21,339 --> 00:42:18,619
opposed came from email just email she

1079
00:42:23,169 --> 00:42:21,349
she got about 60 lousy mother yeah good

1080
00:42:26,259 --> 00:42:23,179
emails and when it came to people who

1081
00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:26,269
were writing to say no we support this

1082
00:42:30,489 --> 00:42:27,859
this is fantastic please don't let your

1083
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:30,499
colleagues be alright by this that was

1084
00:42:34,299 --> 00:42:32,359
no when we went to pinterest and that

1085
00:42:37,689 --> 00:42:34,309
was that was much more kind of facebook

1086
00:42:38,919 --> 00:42:37,699
and twitter as well as being yeah which

1087
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,929
i thought was very interesting as well

1088
00:42:45,009 --> 00:42:40,160
as the sheer numbers the sheer numbers

1089
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:45,019
were in this case we did outnumber them

1090
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:47,569
considerably and i think the reason why

1091
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,729
these clergymen are so terrified about

1092
00:42:56,109 --> 00:42:52,160
this is because they know the parents

1093
00:42:58,460 --> 00:42:56,119
and children unless they're actually

1094
00:43:01,559 --> 00:42:58,470
practicing religious people

1095
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:01,569
would rather do the ethics trial and I

1096
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:03,250
think a large number of the kids who are

1097
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:05,530
doing scripture now doing it because the

1098
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:07,210
alternative is sitting in a photocopy of

1099
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:08,800
all yeah we've we've got I've got a

1100
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:10,030
figure in front of me now from an

1101
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:11,470
article on the morning herald which says

1102
00:43:16,589 --> 00:43:13,630
that forty-seven percent of kids at

1103
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:16,599
baulkham hills actually opted for the

1104
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:20,050
ethics class I'm baulkham hills is the

1105
00:43:24,589 --> 00:43:22,690
the very heartland of hillsong yeah it's

1106
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:24,599
quite a sort of a very family

1107
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:26,710
traditional conservative kind of a

1108
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:29,290
religious area and forty-seven percent

1109
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:31,000
of the kids were going into the ethics

1110
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:32,650
class do you know if that correlates to

1111
00:43:38,190 --> 00:43:35,609
how many didn't do any classes perform

1112
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:38,200
do you know how many kids sandals don't

1113
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:39,910
know how many opt outs they were or at

1114
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:42,690
least it's not any article I've got

1115
00:43:46,829 --> 00:43:45,310
that's just to me that that's a lot more

1116
00:43:49,290 --> 00:43:46,839
than what he would have opted out the

1117
00:43:51,210 --> 00:43:49,300
the article talks about a guy called

1118
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:51,220
Robert had heard from the confraternity

1119
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:53,560
of Christian doctrine and the Catholic

1120
00:44:00,089 --> 00:43:56,710
Archdiocese of Sydney and he claims that

1121
00:44:02,609 --> 00:44:00,099
he lost a lot of sree kids between term

1122
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,619
one and Tim too so next one yeah whether

1123
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:03,760
that's actually true or not I don't have

1124
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:06,970
the figures um yeah it's a pretty

1125
00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:08,290
interesting thing and forty-seven

1126
00:44:12,540 --> 00:44:10,660
percent of kids in a very religious area

1127
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,550
like it yeah I think cause I think they

1128
00:44:17,309 --> 00:44:14,319
had actually said before a small

1129
00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:17,319
correctly that there was a large dropout

1130
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:18,700
rate when they were given the choice and

1131
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:18,850
that

1132
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:22,630
for them adding fuel to learn yeah but

1133
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:24,730
again you know ridges guys improve your

1134
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:26,710
product if you wanna sell it interesting

1135
00:44:31,620 --> 00:44:29,470
stuff so Iran what are you peering at

1136
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:31,630
over there you've got some news from a

1137
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:33,850
smaller Bailey skeptic yes Israeli

1138
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:35,890
skeptics got in touch with me because

1139
00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:39,490
somebody heard the skeptics am and she

1140
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:41,670
recognized the name as Israeli and she

1141
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:45,880
access the example yes my name her name

1142
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,450
is lot Emilio and she organized the

1143
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:51,760
first skeptics in the pub in Haifa

1144
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:54,570
Israel they had more than hundred people

1145
00:45:02,250 --> 00:44:57,850
came the very very first one that's

1146
00:45:05,490 --> 00:45:02,260
pretty good for so yeah yeah I agree

1147
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:05,500
well translations yeah so and and people

1148
00:45:09,570 --> 00:45:07,090
have been people have come from other

1149
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:09,580
cities as well and like there's

1150
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:11,590
obviously huge hunger they're organizing

1151
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:15,970
more I wish them old success you know

1152
00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:18,160
people who have been reading the skeptic

1153
00:45:22,020 --> 00:45:19,990
magazine well know that i published an

1154
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:22,030
article there probably about four or

1155
00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:23,650
five years ago and after previous visit

1156
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,630
to israel but I talked about how there's

1157
00:45:31,290 --> 00:45:28,480
no Israeli skeptics seen and there

1158
00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:31,300
wasn't one when I visited less than a

1159
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:33,940
year ago do I tried to get in touch with

1160
00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:35,590
Israelis get exhaust w get in touch with

1161
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:38,140
so to hear that there is now a growing

1162
00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:40,510
movement is not a stick she she also got

1163
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:42,280
me in touch or she got me listening to a

1164
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:44,380
couple of podcasts in Hebrew including

1165
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,970
one that I want to talk about the name

1166
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:50,800
of the podcast is affect severe which

1167
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:53,680
means reasonable doubt which is a which

1168
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:55,450
is very cute because doubt in Hebrew is

1169
00:46:00,180 --> 00:45:58,090
the same word as skepticism so so really

1170
00:46:01,530 --> 00:46:00,190
it's like yeah so so it's actually it's

1171
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:01,540
got to kept this is him in the name but

1172
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,490
it's also means reasonable doubt it's a

1173
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:05,200
little bit like ask you so they've got

1174
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:06,190
like a few people and they've got

1175
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:07,900
different segments and they you know

1176
00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:10,090
people have different roles and the one

1177
00:46:15,090 --> 00:46:12,460
guys leading it is named easy lon it's

1178
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:15,100
only six episodes so far but they're

1179
00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:16,690
really doing very well right from the

1180
00:46:21,810 --> 00:46:19,060
first one they really had it together

1181
00:46:23,310 --> 00:46:21,820
they likely flows very well and I was

1182
00:46:26,070 --> 00:46:23,320
very impressed with what they've done

1183
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:26,080
there so in episode six your own in his

1184
00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:29,050
rogues gave me the skeptics on podcast

1185
00:46:31,290 --> 00:46:30,430
to shut up so thank you very much for

1186
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:31,300
that

1187
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:34,240
I want to in return I want to give a

1188
00:46:48,260 --> 00:46:37,090
shout out hi Jeremy yes I will thank you

1189
00:46:52,620 --> 00:46:50,880
let's just talk a little bit about some

1190
00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:52,630
of our other projects I know you have a

1191
00:46:56,730 --> 00:46:54,280
project Dave don't you what's your one

1192
00:47:00,450 --> 00:46:56,740
cycle Oh will be the new website I just

1193
00:47:06,210 --> 00:47:00,460
learned launched was Catholic blame calm

1194
00:47:12,780 --> 00:47:06,220
which is just a daily updated compendium

1195
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:12,790
of scapegoats that the the deer Catholic

1196
00:47:21,150 --> 00:47:15,550
Church has blamed this public outrage at

1197
00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:21,160
a child rape on including television the

1198
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:23,950
internet Google pencil nog raphy the

1199
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,170
gays the gays use to get children

1200
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:29,520
themselves Satan yellow the victim of

1201
00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:34,030
salvation not the people there's still

1202
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:37,660
time in fact in fact quite the opposite

1203
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:39,190
when the whole world was looking at the

1204
00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:40,750
Catholic Church and saying can you show

1205
00:47:45,930 --> 00:47:43,720
us some contrition please the Vatican

1206
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:45,940
newspapers are what is it L'Osservatore

1207
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:49,510
Romano said oh the Pope's forgiven the

1208
00:47:56,370 --> 00:47:54,640
Beatles 44 years after John Lennon said

1209
00:47:59,130 --> 00:47:56,380
quite accurately that Christianity was

1210
00:48:01,980 --> 00:47:59,140
probably going to diminish in its

1211
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:01,990
influence in the future so well done

1212
00:48:07,470 --> 00:48:05,010
there that was perhaps the lower God

1213
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:07,480
tasteless and transparent Felicity

1214
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:09,010
something I've seen in a long time so

1215
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:10,300
yeah that blend everybody except the

1216
00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:12,430
Beatles wait a minute about tasteless

1217
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:15,070
and transparent but they of the happy

1218
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:18,370
sake for laying blame because wasn't

1219
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:20,470
there a reigning tired today you blame

1220
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:22,450
you quakes I'm from excuse oh yes there

1221
00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:24,130
is it like to mention there is something

1222
00:48:31,110 --> 00:48:29,350
about that Oh Todd Iranian Iranian

1223
00:48:33,090 --> 00:48:31,120
cleric has discovered the cause of

1224
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:33,100
catastrophic earthquakes it is not plate

1225
00:48:39,020 --> 00:48:36,430
tectonics apparently but there's a great

1226
00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:39,030
backlash that's going to be launched by

1227
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:41,400
several groups across America

1228
00:48:47,870 --> 00:48:45,110
um there's a thing called boobquake

1229
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:47,880
ladies is very important you need to do

1230
00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:49,770
this I'm just need to check when the day

1231
00:48:56,810 --> 00:48:53,340
is April the 26 2010 will be boobquake

1232
00:49:02,360 --> 00:48:56,820
day yeah what you have to do ladies

1233
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:02,370
seriously this is this come on you need

1234
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:04,410
them if you're not comfy with showing

1235
00:49:09,620 --> 00:49:07,050
Eagle all a lot of cleavage yeah we're a

1236
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:09,630
tight top but basically you have to show

1237
00:49:15,140 --> 00:49:13,110
a lot of boobie and April the 26 just to

1238
00:49:17,180 --> 00:49:15,150
demonstrate to this Iranian cleric that

1239
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:17,190
way they won't cause another earthquake

1240
00:49:24,110 --> 00:49:20,280
and because science is repeatable you

1241
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:24,120
have to do every year lots of very very

1242
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:28,110
much science day is it pretty much I'm

1243
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:31,110
fully behind this effort I she also

1244
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:34,560
heard that Deepak Chopra took credit for

1245
00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:38,520
an earthquake in California powerful

1246
00:49:46,940 --> 00:49:41,640
meditation did he tweeted that he had a

1247
00:49:50,930 --> 00:49:46,950
particularly I'm kind of hoping he lived

1248
00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:50,940
for you don't we did it it's quite

1249
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:53,640
serious infectious coming out here is me

1250
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:57,210
this one I think so gay meditating

1251
00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:00,720
prostitutes with their boobs out causing

1252
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:02,940
natural disasters as long as they load

1253
00:50:10,220 --> 00:50:06,240
for bada below this yes yes all of you

1254
00:50:18,590 --> 00:50:10,230
guys who stopped doing it there's one

1255
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,600
bloke at home same Jason can you just

1256
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:20,460
give us a little bit of a rundown of how

1257
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:22,890
your new projects doing the skeptic 800

1258
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:24,690
the skins gay is going very well I can

1259
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:26,490
actually check and get a live count of

1260
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:27,570
how many articles we've got at the

1261
00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:29,850
moment i'll just refresh the page for

1262
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:30,990
those of you don't know who didn't

1263
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:32,700
listen to last month's podcast or the

1264
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:35,130
month before or the week before skeptic

1265
00:50:42,110 --> 00:50:37,770
a calm is a aggregator for skeptical

1266
00:50:45,370 --> 00:50:42,120
blogs it holds in about 200 and here we

1267
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:45,380
go 261 skeptical blogs and currently has

1268
00:50:53,370 --> 00:50:47,849
9530 six articles indexed

1269
00:50:55,290 --> 00:50:53,380
over nine so by the time this podcast

1270
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:55,300
hits the streets that'll be over 10,000

1271
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,210
and yeah it's just gonna keep on growing

1272
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:00,240
so you guys keep blogging it's brilliant

1273
00:51:06,510 --> 00:51:03,970
but you've also just developed a mobile

1274
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:06,520
phone it's gonna be hitting mobile

1275
00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:08,950
phones there's a pilot site out now at

1276
00:51:14,970 --> 00:51:12,190
em skip Decatur com or sorry MDOT

1277
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:14,980
skeptical net and because i have both

1278
00:51:18,839 --> 00:51:17,230
names that will have searched on it

1279
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:18,849
shortly at the moment it just shows you

1280
00:51:22,829 --> 00:51:21,520
a list of articles and but it'll be you

1281
00:51:24,810 --> 00:51:22,839
know i'll be cranking that up and it'll

1282
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:24,820
be very nice for you know if you're in

1283
00:51:28,109 --> 00:51:26,830
the pub and someone says to you all I

1284
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:28,119
was meditating the other day and I

1285
00:51:34,339 --> 00:51:30,970
corner you'll be able to just pull ups

1286
00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:34,349
gets Gator on your phone and type in

1287
00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:50,380
sorry cap see Elvis okay but yes it's

1288
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,420
it's the in the pub argument settles the

1289
00:51:56,070 --> 00:51:54,640
skeptical issues I'm not skeptic a net

1290
00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:56,080
not only that it's just perfect for

1291
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,910
killing time if you're on a bus ride or

1292
00:52:00,960 --> 00:51:59,440
even well you do have a little longer

1293
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:00,970
this time on your hands they had a long

1294
00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:03,730
visit to the bathroom something I am NOT

1295
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:05,380
skeptic ated com I don't know I'm

1296
00:52:09,870 --> 00:52:07,599
plugging this so much got a day for

1297
00:52:13,980 --> 00:52:09,880
everything about custard on it Dave the

1298
00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:13,990
heavy singer irani have nothing about

1299
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:16,300
magic no no what is Madge tell us about

1300
00:52:20,099 --> 00:52:18,490
your edge well there's an ABC program

1301
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:20,109
called background briefing which scott

1302
00:52:23,849 --> 00:52:21,910
is something different topics every

1303
00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:23,859
every week and dad background briefing

1304
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:26,380
had an 18 teens of April a show about

1305
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:29,290
food fears by reporters Stephen

1306
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:31,359
Crittenden their show was about food

1307
00:52:37,380 --> 00:52:34,330
labeling but one of the organization's

1308
00:52:40,589 --> 00:52:37,390
used as a source is called match ma dge

1309
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:40,599
which stands for listen to this mothers

1310
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:43,290
are the mystifying genetic engineering

1311
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,550
now what yeah I know so the thing is he

1312
00:52:53,010 --> 00:52:50,800
talked to them about labeling but they

1313
00:52:56,460 --> 00:52:53,020
obviously expressed concern about the

1314
00:52:59,609 --> 00:52:56,470
health issues that could become related

1315
00:53:00,839 --> 00:52:59,619
to genetic engineering so I did a bit of

1316
00:53:02,219 --> 00:53:00,849
a search on them and

1317
00:53:04,140 --> 00:53:02,229
they look very much like a one-person

1318
00:53:06,749 --> 00:53:04,150
operation headed by ten Madeline love

1319
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:06,759
and anus but the site is very much

1320
00:53:15,089 --> 00:53:10,079
anti-gm rather than pro information so I

1321
00:53:17,069 --> 00:53:15,099
feel like this avian one-person

1322
00:53:19,859 --> 00:53:17,079
operation you know from where it was

1323
00:53:21,299 --> 00:53:19,869
yeah and you know with the deceptive

1324
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:21,309
name now I'm not one hun percent sure

1325
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:22,960
about this and I've only spent like half

1326
00:53:26,999 --> 00:53:25,690
an hour on this but but here's a few

1327
00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:27,009
things I find first of all their

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homepage match homepage magic show in

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victoria matador aldo to you since we

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are concerned about the lack of adequate

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labeling and testing of GM foods

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admirable i have not wrong with that at

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all but the next sentence is we advocate

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on behalf of consumers for the right to

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know what is in our food what is in our

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food we promote information on natural

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foods and healthy farming practices

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natural foods a natural the word natural

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alarm bells ringing then Indians manager

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is supernatural food yeah in the safe in

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the set in the safe food shopping guy

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they have the fur the first item is how

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to shop GM additive and pesticide-free

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there's an article here on I don't you

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keep Australian canola gm-free this I

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look for information that talks about

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the studies that have been done about GM

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foods and to see whether they actually

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show that you know that the positive

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things about GM foods and the increased

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yield the reduced amount of pesticide

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all those things that have been shown

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and I agree that more testing is

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required that there's no no problem with

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that at all but they have nothing

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positive but the GM is evil now the next

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thing I found was that I want to see

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what kind of references they had they

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have a paper here from the American

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Academy of Environmental Medicine which

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has released its position paper on

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genetically modified foods stating that

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and I quote now GM foods pose serious

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health risk and calling for a moratorium

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on GM foods and it's a very serious

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paper because for example it shows here

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that there's a directory direct link

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between anaphylaxis admissions to GM

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crop approvals what Iraq this is the

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first time I've heard of the American

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Academy of it okay

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I have ahead of them for the very first

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time to but I've got went to their

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website and found two position papers

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one position paper I won't tell you what

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00:55:15,770 --> 00:55:14,250
it's about but it says where scientific

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research has clearly identified that

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fluoride is a known toxic substance in

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00:55:22,130 --> 00:55:19,590
photography affects human health and

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worthy and where's Fleur Irish own

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00:55:26,780 --> 00:55:24,510
bodily fluids is a known neurotoxin and

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cassidian carcinogen even at the levels

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added to the public water supplies as

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promoted by the American Dental

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Association of the United States Public

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00:55:37,730 --> 00:55:34,740
Health Service the American Academy

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00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:37,740
enrollee supports so the aae am now

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00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,230
supports banning the additional fluoride

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or products containing fluoride to

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public water supplies and to end to any

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00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:45,540
substances intended for human

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consumption say that's one another

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00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:50,280
positions against their patron General

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00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:53,850
Jack da Rippa in another position paper

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they say that they are the organization

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is opposed to the International to the

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00:56:03,110 --> 00:56:00,750
international use of mercury in any

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material that is implanted ingested or

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injected in the human body including all

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forms used in medicine including but not

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limited to any medicaments specifically

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vaccinations so I think look I I don't

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00:56:22,910 --> 00:56:21,240
think the the jury is probably still a

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:22,920
little bit out on Madge but it's looking

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00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:26,690
very very suspicious yeah but mother's

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00:56:32,810 --> 00:56:30,810
you know you know like Jenny's Mummy

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00:56:34,850 --> 00:56:32,820
Mummy instinct and I'm just thinking all

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00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:34,860
these poor scientists out there slaving

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00:56:39,050 --> 00:56:37,770
away for I'm sure dr. ratio agree with

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00:56:40,700 --> 00:56:39,060
me you know what kittens compared with

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00:56:44,380 --> 00:56:40,710
the academic work you put in to get that

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00:56:46,310 --> 00:56:44,390
job you know and really working hard and

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00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:46,320
fighting so hard to get published and

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00:56:49,730 --> 00:56:47,400
all this stuff putting all this effort

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00:56:50,810 --> 00:56:49,740
in to find out what's real and when in

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00:56:52,130 --> 00:56:50,820
fact the mothers could just tell them

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00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:52,140
what's right in the first place exactly

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00:56:55,610 --> 00:56:53,850
what were they interviewed as like

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00:56:57,860 --> 00:56:55,620
experts in this area what was the

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00:57:00,539 --> 00:56:57,870
context of that they're experts on GM

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00:57:02,579 --> 00:57:00,549
foods yes

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00:57:06,959 --> 00:57:02,589
so lastly Joe you put something there

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00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:06,969
about a newspaper taking a stand again

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00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:09,729
an interesting way this is unwitting in

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00:57:13,169 --> 00:57:11,529
fact someone tweeted it on the weekend

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00:57:15,630 --> 00:57:13,179
with alcohol but I can't remember who it

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00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:15,640
was so this was about an Auckland

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00:57:19,859 --> 00:57:17,529
newspaper called the Indian weekender

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00:57:22,819 --> 00:57:19,869
who's decided to take a stand against

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00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:22,829
advertising for purveyors of

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00:57:30,209 --> 00:57:25,900
supernatural services and it really does

1432
00:57:32,729 --> 00:57:30,219
tie in in fact to the Indian legislation

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00:57:35,249 --> 00:57:32,739
about advertising for people like gurus

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00:57:36,809 --> 00:57:35,259
and Yogi's and so on and what's happened

1435
00:57:39,929 --> 00:57:36,819
is that they've decided to adopt

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00:57:41,309 --> 00:57:39,939
guidelines based on Indian law they say

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00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:41,319
in a bid to fend off a flood of

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00:57:44,669 --> 00:57:43,089
ethically questionable investments

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00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:44,679
offering supernatural services to the

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00:57:49,799 --> 00:57:48,130
public now apparently India's drugs and

1441
00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:49,809
magic remedies objectionable

1442
00:57:55,949 --> 00:57:54,249
advertisement acts Wow only has a whole

1443
00:57:58,650 --> 00:57:55,959
range of guidelines and laws about what

1444
00:58:01,559 --> 00:57:58,660
can I can't be advertised in India and

1445
00:58:04,289 --> 00:58:01,569
ridicula newspaper has taken a stand

1446
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:04,299
against similar sorts of advertising in

1447
00:58:10,169 --> 00:58:08,049
their newspaper they really feel that

1448
00:58:11,789 --> 00:58:10,179
it's something that has been gotten out

1449
00:58:13,279 --> 00:58:11,799
of control they feel they need to do

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00:58:15,989 --> 00:58:13,289
something to protect the public

1451
00:58:18,179 --> 00:58:15,999
apparently in India this particular Act

1452
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:18,189
provides for two months jail and a two

1453
00:58:21,749 --> 00:58:20,170
thousand rupee fine but unfortunately in

1454
00:58:24,299 --> 00:58:21,759
India it's been very unenforced because

1455
00:58:26,819 --> 00:58:24,309
apparently the politicians thereof

1456
00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:26,829
actually they make use of a lot of these

1457
00:58:31,529 --> 00:58:29,400
Yogi's and so on by sheltering them

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00:58:34,019 --> 00:58:31,539
because they get votes from a lot of

1459
00:58:35,459 --> 00:58:34,029
their followers the Indian weekender

1460
00:58:39,449 --> 00:58:35,469
thought they could use these guidelines

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00:58:42,209 --> 00:58:39,459
to inform how they actually choose some

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00:58:45,209 --> 00:58:42,219
of their advertising and apparently in

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00:58:47,969 --> 00:58:45,219
New Zealand there was actually an act

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00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,979
called the hunger suppression Act which

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00:58:52,049 --> 00:58:49,359
was aimed at people targeting the

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00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:52,059
superstitious superstition opportunity

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00:58:57,950 --> 00:58:54,640
amount of the Maori people but this was

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00:58:59,940 --> 00:58:57,960
repealed in 1962 so there used to be an

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00:59:02,700 --> 00:58:59,950
okay well they could have just dropped

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00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:02,710
Mario I just said will protect the

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00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:06,070
reality of people yeah yeah I'm gonna be

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00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:08,110
finer so I think that it's something

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00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:09,730
that you know we've seen recently the

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00:59:15,930 --> 00:59:12,180
decision that was made by to this child

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00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:15,940
which I have a floor yeah we've

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00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:17,980
discussed from here I just point out

1477
00:59:23,150 --> 00:59:19,750
that Joe's piece there was brought to

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00:59:27,090 --> 00:59:23,160
you by dr. bogus is chiropractic center

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00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:27,100
and gave the happy singer doctor when we

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00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:29,710
do tgb on Saturday nights yes there's

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00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:31,210
always at the end of our segments

1482
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:32,740
there's this is segment is sponsored by

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00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:36,250
dr. Kerr bosal a detox every time I was

1484
00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:37,990
having last Saturday night right after

1485
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:40,420
you've given a whole talk on red flags

1486
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:42,850
and things to look for yeah we add for

1487
00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:45,610
some arthritis cream that we're complete

1488
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:49,270
nonsense and I just as fun online I mean

1489
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,250
the other day in here in Australia it

1490
00:59:56,130 --> 00:59:54,160
was a gangland gang round oval how

1491
00:59:57,810 --> 00:59:56,140
Williams got murdered in prison and next

1492
01:00:03,420 --> 00:59:57,820
to the news story there was make a

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01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:03,430
killing trading pointillism I have to

1494
01:00:07,110 --> 01:00:04,690
say though one last thing about this

1495
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:07,120
story which I which really surprised me

1496
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:10,720
was that it amazed me that India has got

1497
01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:13,680
this type of legislation given that

1498
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:19,000
india is such a high muhammad oh yeah i

1499
01:00:22,110 --> 01:00:20,050
mean with the homie I heard the way

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:22,120
homeopathy is accepted doctor nurse

1501
01:00:28,770 --> 01:00:26,770
email like not a doctor hi Nancy it's

1502
01:00:30,210 --> 01:00:28,780
wrong there are skeptics doing great

1503
01:00:31,950 --> 01:00:30,220
work in India as well by means some of

1504
01:00:35,610 --> 01:00:31,960
the stuff of the Indian Scotty the mass

1505
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:35,620
exposure yeah and the one where the Guru

1506
01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:37,090
threatened to kill this guy that was

1507
01:00:41,970 --> 01:00:38,430
like

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01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:41,980
funniest things I see all right well

1509
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:43,810
thanks guys for joining us again but I

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01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:45,790
think thank you to everyone we're doing

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01:00:56,900 --> 01:00:49,410
bottom a little research until next week

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01:00:56,910 --> 01:01:19,289
from

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:34,579
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01:01:38,410 --> 01:01:36,410
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01:01:40,989 --> 01:01:38,420
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